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Klaus Hargreeves
Ariana Grande
Rose the Hat
Elizaveta Tuktamysheva
Shelli Poole
David Rose
Kam
Patrick Star
Arisa Cox
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Elizaveta Tuktamysheva

Elizaveta Tuktamysheva


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PostSubject: Re: Final 3   Final 3 - Page 3 EmptySat Jun 27, 2020 12:01 pm

Kam wrote:
Elizaveta Tuktamysheva wrote:
Kam wrote:
You put two people up and never bothered to message them and at least attempt to soften the blow of the nomination.

The first HOH that I won was a competition where we had to submit our answers as well as noms at the same time.
When the hosts announced that I won the HOH, I didn't even know when the noms were gonna be announced.
That HOH was different, and worked very differently, time-wise.
That's why I didn't give you a heads up. 
Not because I didn't think about softening the blow, but simply because of how the HOH competition worked.
I didn't have time to consider my noms or go talk to the people I was nominating.
As soon as I submitted my answers, I already submitted my noms too, because that's how the comp worked.
Otherwise, I would've definitely given you a heads up, and you definitely deserved one.
So for that, I am sorry.

The second and third time I won the HOH, I didn't give you a heads up either because I didn't do that the first time, and also at that point, I thought it was obvious.
But in retrospect, I still should've and could've given you a heads up.

I wasn’t referring to just getting a heads up. You nominated two people and one of them was going to stay. You never attempted to reach out and say “oh btw you weren’t my target” or something along those lines. Just to make them feel better about the nomination. I had to nominate six people when I was HOH and was able to reach out and soften the blow. Understanding that we would be on the Jury and blatantly ignoring us is very confusing to me.

That's valid.
To be fair tho, if I remember correctly, the last conversation we had before the first time I nominated you, you left me on read.
That definitely contributed to me not messaging you any further.
But I still could've double messsaged you, so that's a valid criticism.
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Elizaveta Tuktamysheva

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PostSubject: Re: Final 3   Final 3 - Page 3 EmptySat Jun 27, 2020 12:06 pm

Barney Stinson wrote:
congrats on f3 I have a question for both Patrick and Liza

to Liza if Patrick used the veto at F6 who would you have put up and why?

Hey Barney!

That's a great question actually!
Umm... I think Shelli, probably.
I perceived her to be a bigger jury threat than Rose, and at that time Shelli was starting to emerge as a competitive threat that's just as good as comps as Rose.
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PostSubject: Re: Final 3   Final 3 - Page 3 EmptySat Jun 27, 2020 12:09 pm

Elizaveta Tuktamysheva wrote:
Kam wrote:
Elizaveta Tuktamysheva wrote:
Kam wrote:
You put two people up and never bothered to message them and at least attempt to soften the blow of the nomination.

The first HOH that I won was a competition where we had to submit our answers as well as noms at the same time.
When the hosts announced that I won the HOH, I didn't even know when the noms were gonna be announced.
That HOH was different, and worked very differently, time-wise.
That's why I didn't give you a heads up. 
Not because I didn't think about softening the blow, but simply because of how the HOH competition worked.
I didn't have time to consider my noms or go talk to the people I was nominating.
As soon as I submitted my answers, I already submitted my noms too, because that's how the comp worked.
Otherwise, I would've definitely given you a heads up, and you definitely deserved one.
So for that, I am sorry.

The second and third time I won the HOH, I didn't give you a heads up either because I didn't do that the first time, and also at that point, I thought it was obvious.
But in retrospect, I still should've and could've given you a heads up.

I wasn’t referring to just getting a heads up. You nominated two people and one of them was going to stay. You never attempted to reach out and say “oh btw you weren’t my target” or something along those lines. Just to make them feel better about the nomination. I had to nominate six people when I was HOH and was able to reach out and soften the blow. Understanding that we would be on the Jury and blatantly ignoring us is very confusing to me.

That's valid.
To be fair tho, if I remember correctly, the last conversation we had before the first time I nominated you, you left me on read.
That definitely contributed to me not messaging you any further.
But I still could've double messsaged you, so that's a valid criticism.

We were having a casual conversation about Netflix that you started. I found out from Klaus that you had copied and pasted the same Netflix conversation to him, that’s why I didn’t continue with it. You did it right before the upcoming HOH so it was very transparent what your motives were.
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PostSubject: Re: Final 3   Final 3 - Page 3 EmptySat Jun 27, 2020 12:37 pm

Ariana Grande wrote:
Love this final 3 so much hahaha!!! You guys all did so well, and I’m so happy to see each of you here! Aight patty pull out the wallet we getting kbbq 🤣 I don’t have questions I can think of yet hmm bbl

Omg Ari YESS LMFAOOO
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PostSubject: Re: Final 3   Final 3 - Page 3 EmptySat Jun 27, 2020 12:43 pm

Rose the Hat wrote:
I’m not going to lie, this is one of those rare games where as a jury member, I have absolutely no idea who to vote for. My vote is truly up for grabs. There are some serious pros and cons to all 3 of you (mostly cons if I’m being honest, based on these three openings, yikes). I’ll be reading every word to every answer you give to each juror. I apologize in advance if I sound harsh, it’s all love. All three of you are super sweet and friendly and outside of this game I look forward to finding out who you all are. But for this, any harshness that comes out of me is just my way to really figure out who the best person to vote for is.

I want to be clear, I trusted NO ONE when I came back into the game and that continued all the way up until my eviction last night. I felt that every attempt by anyone at all to be in an alliance with me was done so out of fear just in case I go on a challenge run. It would be too presumptuous and naive of me to take anything said to me at face value (even if some were actually genuine). I wanted everyone to think I was just some dumb naive challenge beast that can be hoodwinked by people who consider themselves socially savvy, I told myself just say YES to everything, NOD MY HEAD and act like whatever is being told to me is pure gold coming from the mouth of a god or goddess. I was a selfish liar and I felt no genuine sense of loyalty to anybody and I voted the way I wanted to in each eviction ceremony based on how it would would enhance the betterment of my OWN position in the game.

I don't want anyone to try to bolster their resume by acting like my own independent moves and decisions came from their social savviness because that’s simply not the case. I turned on my alliance with Klaus, Kam, David and Barney because that alliance felt like a ticking time bomb and it served the purpose already on weakening the rest of the house and I didn’t want any alliance to grow too powerful in the game. I turned on Barney because I knew he was going to turn on me and I wanted to get him before he can get me. I knew about Barney for so many days before I decided to turn on him. Flipping on them was only desirable because by the time I did so, the main allies of Patrick, Liza, Shelli were all gone.

Patrick, I think you played an interesting game and you survived quite a number of eviction ceremonies when you were on the block. That in itself is impressive. My main issue with me giving you my vote is your focus on highlighting your social game. I’m struggling with figuring out if it really was an incredible social game or if it was because people felt you would be easy to beat so they kept you around because every time I decided to vote to keep you, it was because I felt like the other person on the block was playing a better game than you. My interactions with you seemed to be very base level and it felt like you were only getting close with me because I was good at challenges and I never really trusted you. From my perspective, it seemed like your social game only consisted of you constantly showering everyone with over the top compliments followed by several exclamation points. I really would love for you to give me a clear picture of how your social game goes beyond just speaking in positive platitudes constantly because it never felt like there was much substance to any of it. I look forward to hearing your response!

Liza, you were someone that I was going to try to take out at final 6 or 5 and I was most definitely going to evict you if I had won final POV. You gave me dark horse favorite vibes to win the game and I had a feeling you would come out HOT with a long and detailed opening. Low and behold, I was right. It feels like you are padding your resume a little bit though which is fine, that’s what you’re supposed to do at this stage in the game. I don’t love the claim that you were the one to convince me to go after Barney (though I don’t blame you for thinking that because it might’ve seemed that way). David Rose had told me about Barney trying to make plays against me a few days prior. Taking out your core alliance was mainly the reason why I felt like you were someone I could connect with knowing you had limited options at your disposal. Despite all of that though, it’s impressive still that you made it to where you are now because you were called out throughout the game and still managed to get here. Similar to Patrick, it feels like you’re making your social game sound far better than it actually was. When I returned, our interactions felt EXTREMELY base level and you were essentially repeating the same thing to me over and over again about how what I was thinking or doing “made sense” to you. By the time you started to open up to me more, it became transparent in the timing because it was when your back was to the wall. A big pet peeve of mine is when players try to exaggerate and make themselves sound like social masterminds. I would like to hear a nuanced response from you on why you think I’m wrong about my analysis of me thinking you have exaggerated certain elements of your game.  I look forward to hearing your response!

Shelli, one thing that impresses me about you was your brazen approach to going after me. You were fearless with just nominating me straight up several times and didn’t even bother trying to backdoor me. There’s a boldness in that and I kind of love it. You were also one of the few people who didn’t really try to make a deal with me upon my return. I was so used to everyone scrambling and trying to rekindle shit with me because they were afraid of me going after them. It took me by surprise that you didn’t attempt anything like that with me. It’s not a bad thing and again, I kind of like that in a weird way. There’s a realness to it that I found lacking in almost every other person. I just want to know your reasoning for not trying to be a little more social with me and I’m curious about why I was such a constant target. How much of a threat did you consider me to be? One of my main arguments was that I was already evicted at one point in the game and it would probably be a hard sell for me to convince a jury to vote for me. What exactly made you see through that argument and want me out anyway (Especially at final 4)? It also felt like you needed to win a bunch of challenges at the end of the game, especially the last few HOH’s you won to survive. You have no idea how many times I’ve seen jurors give finalists total shit for being at the end because they won a bunch of challenges down the stretch. I’d love to hear from you on if you agree with that philosophy that jurors often have. Should you still win the game even though you would have likely been evicted if you didn’t win a bunch of challenges down the stretch at the end there? I look forward to hearing your response!

Congrats final 3. Making it this far is a feat in itself. I have no idea how I’m going to vote and how you all respond will help me greatly on deciding what to do!

Rose that is an excellent question! For starters, I believe what you described is the name of the game. And unlike the two ladies sitting next to me I played a LOYAL game. Liza used a lot of manipulation which I didn’t do. And yeah I made others seem like I wasn’t a big threat, but that got me to the end. In Big Brother, a dominating game in the competitions and a manipulative game doesn’t always win you the money. For example, Paul lost both BB18 and BB19. Josh also had a lot of people in that jury who felt questionable about him, and for me, I felt the same way. However, I still fought hard to earn my right to be here. I knew if I didn’t campaign to you and Liza I would have went home. However, I pitched an angle that I knew would keep me and it ended up working. I always gave an important motto in life of it doesn’t matter where you start it matters where you end. I clearly didn’t play the strongest game competition wise, but I avoided getting too much blood on my hands this season and I made moves when I needed to to put myself in the best position to win.

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PostSubject: Re: Final 3   Final 3 - Page 3 EmptySat Jun 27, 2020 12:44 pm

Momo wrote:
Patrick, i would prefer death than voting for u!

Shelly, i came here 100% voting for u.

Liza, i came here also preferring death than voting for u. But your answer is making me think twice. I liked how u didnt make excuses and confirmed that i told the truth.

So...
Patrick, F u.
Liza and shells, why I(momo from the house yip yip) should vote for u?

Momo LMAOOOOO. I still love you personally but I did expect this energy

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PostSubject: Re: Final 3   Final 3 - Page 3 EmptySat Jun 27, 2020 12:48 pm

Kam wrote:
Hey Final 3! Congrats on making it there. I don’t really have questions but I have a couple things to say.

To Liza: I think out of everyone you had the most transparent social game. And I mean that in a way that conversations with you always felt like I was being “worked”. I was going to put your group up but I didn’t not because of you but because of Hayley. I could tell Hayley was chaotic and I didn’t want to deal with her calling me out on the public thread so early. You knew me and Klaus were close but it didn’t stop you from basically copying and pasting to us the same messages. Me and Klaus compared notes on literally all our conversations with others and it’s amazing how much of that was going on. You put two people up and never bothered to message them and at least attempt to soften the blow of the nomination. At final 6 you messaged me about the Patrick vote and didn’t even bother to address the fact that you nominated me TWICE. You just tried to start a brand new conversation with me 😂 Your name was constantly going around in numerous alliances and your target was exposed before you even got to make your move. I think you’re a nice girl but your social game wasn’t as great as you thought it was and Jury management was basically non existent.

To Shelli: Your copying and pasting game was strong too. You did the same thing you did to me to Klaus. Told us you were keeping us and immediately evicted us to the Jury. Why would anyone blindside two jury members. When I was put up, you said to me without me asking “Even if you don’t win the veto, you have my vote guaranteed” then immediately proceed to vote me out and then spill your whole game to me after blindsiding me lmaooo of course I was going to tell everyone. The worst jury management and game move.

To Patrick: I think you’re the underdog in this final three because you have less comp wins. I’m sorry but who had the ability to type the fastest and have the best internet connection should not determine who wins this game. I saw first hand how amazing you were at this game. What you don’t know is when me and Klaus decided to form 6 pack we decided we would each pick someone we felt good about. Klaus and I both agreed on Ariana because we had both talked to her a lot but we needed to have our individual picks. Klaus picked Riku and I picked you. I had just won the first HOH and had conversations with pretty much the whole cast but out of everyone that talked to me, you were someone I was completely sold on. In that moment, I knew you were going to go far in this game. You have flawlessly connected with people and your name was rarely ever brought up as a target. Momo called you out and could have ruined your game but you flawlessly navigated that and somehow managed to take the spotlight off you. Unlike the others who won to protect themselves, you had social relationships with people who protected you. I’ve always said it’s harder to get someone to do something for you than it is to just do it yourself. You didn’t use that veto on me but unlike the others you were able to make me feel good about your decision not to save me. Now that to me is a GREAT social game.

I think all three of you are great people and should be immensely proud of making it this far <3

Kam I love you so much and I agree with that so much! I wasn't the fastest at these comps and I knew that. However, I didn't let that discourage me to play a manipulative social game or use manipulative tactics. No. I used a strategic social game that was still in the lines of me being able to keep my word. Kam you were one of the first people I talked to in this game and I knew that was the best decision I could have made. Even though Momo almost blew up my game, I managed to avoid the block until Final 7 after that. On top of that, I didn't win an HOH or veto in between that. Yet, I got a spot in the Final 3. No matter the cause, I was always thinking ahead in this game for myself.

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PostSubject: Re: Final 3   Final 3 - Page 3 EmptySat Jun 27, 2020 12:56 pm

Barney Stinson wrote:
congrats on f3 I have a question for both Patrick and Liza

Patrick at the F6 you had a chance to make the biggest move of the season split up the trio of Liza/Shelli/Rose from what i've heard from the jury your social bonds with David and Kam would of carried you through to the final as well and pulling one of them down would have been a baller move

to Liza if Patrick used the veto at F6 who would you have put up and why?

Hello Barney! I agree that could have been a good move, however this is why I didn't use it. I had suspicions of an alliance that was created involving Kam, Klaus, you, David, and Rose. However, my strong social game kept me alive when I was clearly by myself after Ariana and Peter left game-wise. Yeah I know Kam was still here, but I felt my chances slipping when she voted to evict me over you but I appreciate it since she was honest about it. As a result, I knew I needed to stick close to Rose and Liza because they would be amazing at the competitions. And I strongly believe if David would have won that next HOH, I would have gone up on the block. Therefore, I decided not to use the veto but I wanted Kam to stay so I immediately told her I was voting to keep her. However, little to my knowledge, due to Liza and Shelli's copy paste game, the results blind-sided me. This definitely made me a target 100%, yet I still survived. Me and Rose were also in a good place and the only other person I was worried about was Shelli. However, I knew if I used that veto, Liza would have put Rose up but that wasn't the best case for my game because I knew if Rose won the next HOH she would go after Shelli and Liza before she would go after me. In the end, I love Kam and David so much, but that decision was made for my long-term game which ended up giving me a seat in final 3 through honesty and strong tactical awareness.

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PostSubject: Re: Final 3   Final 3 - Page 3 EmptySat Jun 27, 2020 12:57 pm

Momo wrote:
Patrick, i would prefer death than voting for u!

Shelly, i came here 100% voting for u.

Liza, i came here also preferring death than voting for u. But your answer is making me think twice. I liked how u didnt make excuses and confirmed that i told the truth.

So...
Patrick, F u.
Liza and shells, why I(momo from the house yip yip) should vote for u?

Momo even though you feel like that, I still had your back and ensured your safety during my HOH reign. It wasn't until David's HOH when I heard my name was being thrown out by YOU so I had to work extra hard to save myself. In the end, it got me to Final 3.
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PostSubject: Re: Final 3   Final 3 - Page 3 EmptySat Jun 27, 2020 1:05 pm

I am ready for any other questions you guys may have if you have any. I just wanted to say something. I know many of you may think I was the underdog, which is true, but I don't want you guys to think that I got here by luck or by chance. Also, who doesn't love an underdog story. I lost my whole alliance in this game, but unlike Liza, I didn't go around the house making superficial alliances to stay safe. I took things on a week-by-week basis and ultimately survived two crucial eliminations that a viewer would predict I would have went home. I played this game with heart, loyalty, determination, and my ability to adapt to any circumstance. I got to talk to a lot of people in this game personally, and I did ask questions about people to try and get to know them more. For example, me and Kam shared many talks about music, me and Peter shared many conversations about where we were from and it turns out we even lived in the same city at one point. Also, me and Ariana were talking NON-STOP about life, this game and everything. Same with Klaus, we both knew where each other's heads were at this entire game. To me, this game was more than copying and pasting messages to people. I can honestly say I NEVER DID THAT ONCE in this game. Each person I campaigned too individually coming from heart and passion for this game. Yeah maybe I put an exclamation point at the end, but I didn't want to be saved because of lies and MANIPULATION. With that being said, I still ended up getting a spot at Final 3.

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PostSubject: Re: Final 3   Final 3 - Page 3 EmptySat Jun 27, 2020 1:12 pm

Barney Stinson wrote:
congrats on f3 I have a question for both Patrick and Liza

Patrick at the F6 you had a chance to make the biggest move of the season split up the trio of Liza/Shelli/Rose from what i've heard from the jury your social bonds with David and Kam would of carried you through to the final as well and pulling one of them down would have been a baller move

to Liza if Patrick used the veto at F6 who would you have put up and why?

Also to follow up on my previous answer to this question: if it is viewed that Shelli, Rose and Liza were a trio then I survived basically a 3 vs 1 scenario. I defied so many odds to get to this position in this game and I hope that is something that doesn't go unnoticed Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Final 3   Final 3 - Page 3 EmptySat Jun 27, 2020 1:13 pm

Pat! Obviously you were no comp beast LMAOOO, that's already been established. I worked closely with you, so I know how strategic and calculated your moves were. You knew you couldn't rely on wins with Shelli, Rose, and Liza in the game and had to play differently.

It's definitely difficult to quantify your social game for the jury, so I will ask you to specify your social game within the context of each juror. I know you heavily influenced my replacement nom. I personally was going to do kam, and Liza also wanted kam up, but you encouraged Bea. 

Liza and Shelli, it seems the jury is unimpressed with your social games, share something you learned from or about each member of the jury. Which hohs were you nervous about throughout the game? What would you do differently after hearing the criticism?
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PostSubject: Re: Final 3   Final 3 - Page 3 EmptySat Jun 27, 2020 1:13 pm

Just to clear things up, idk where this notion of a copy paste game came from in terms of me, but i had different conversations with all of you as well. Maybe some things i said were similar to start conversation like wishing people good luck (which i still typed out individual messages) because were all playing the same game but any time we talked about things in or our of the game on my end it was a conversation to you and you only. Ive worked 9-5 and gone to school 6-8 every week day that this game has had so while i wish i got the chance to go more in depth and talk to more of you individually i think we all spoke a good amount for the amount of time i was able to be online. All in all, its all a game and i respect you all and however you vote tonight Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Final 3   Final 3 - Page 3 EmptySat Jun 27, 2020 1:14 pm

Patrick Star wrote:
Barney Stinson wrote:
congrats on f3 I have a question for both Patrick and Liza

Patrick at the F6 you had a chance to make the biggest move of the season split up the trio of Liza/Shelli/Rose from what i've heard from the jury your social bonds with David and Kam would of carried you through to the final as well and pulling one of them down would have been a baller move

to Liza if Patrick used the veto at F6 who would you have put up and why?

Also to follow up on my previous answer to this question: if it is viewed that Shelli, Rose and Liza were a trio then I survived basically a 3 vs 1 scenario. I defied so many odds to get to this position in this game and I hope that is something that doesn't go unnoticed Smile

We were definitely not a trio lmaooo but u still did great patrick zdjncsdkcnds
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PostSubject: Re: Final 3   Final 3 - Page 3 EmptySat Jun 27, 2020 1:16 pm

oh also pat answer the question about which hohs you were nervous about please
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