congrats on f3 I have a question for both Patrick and Liza
Patrick at the F6 you had a chance to make the biggest move of the season split up the trio of Liza/Shelli/Rose from what i've heard from the jury your social bonds with David and Kam would of carried you through to the final as well and pulling one of them down would have been a baller move
to Liza if Patrick used the veto at F6 who would you have put up and why?
Also to follow up on my previous answer to this question: if it is viewed that Shelli, Rose and Liza were a trio then I survived basically a 3 vs 1 scenario. I defied so many odds to get to this position in this game and I hope that is something that doesn't go unnoticed
We were definitely not a trio lmaooo but u still did great patrick zdjncsdkcnds
I know I was just saying it in the context of Barney's question LMAO. But I agree we all did great!
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David Rose
Join date : 2020-06-10
Subject: Re: Final 3 Sat Jun 27, 2020 1:25 pm
To Liza- When Shelli put me up she said that it was because you promised not to vote me out...but then you did. Did your word matter at all during this game?
Patrick- What is your biggest regret in this game?
I feel like both of you girls snapped hard at the end with challenges, but you played more messy when Patrick didn't need to. Feel free to speak about that.
David Rose
Join date : 2020-06-10
Subject: Re: Final 3 Sat Jun 27, 2020 1:25 pm
To Liza- When Shelli put me up she said that it was because you promised not to vote me out...but then you did. Did your word matter at all during this game?
Patrick- What is your biggest regret in this game?
I feel like both of you girls snapped hard at the end with challenges, but you played more messy when Patrick didn't need to. Feel free to speak about that.
Shelli Poole
Join date : 2020-06-09
Subject: Re: Final 3 Sat Jun 27, 2020 1:29 pm
Ariana Grande wrote:
Pat! Obviously you were no comp beast LMAOOO, that's already been established. I worked closely with you, so I know how strategic and calculated your moves were. You knew you couldn't rely on wins with Shelli, Rose, and Liza in the game and had to play differently.
It's definitely difficult to quantify your social game for the jury, so I will ask you to specify your social game within the context of each juror. I know you heavily influenced my replacement nom. I personally was going to do kam, and Liza also wanted kam up, but you encouraged Bea.
Liza and Shelli, it seems the jury is unimpressed with your social games, share something you learned from or about each member of the jury. Which hohs were you nervous about throughout the game? What would you do differently after hearing the criticism?
Hey Ari!! thanks for the question.
Out of everyone in the game i definitely talked to you the most lol. I will own my social game wasn't as in depth as i had hoped that it could be. Most conversations i had were about the game with the exception of a few of you. Games on twitter are easy to communicate because its just dms but when i played this game i only played on my laptop for the most part so id only have so many hours to talk to people but i always tried to ask if most people had a good day and ask how they were feeling. Regardless, nothing was copied and pasted and i did enjoy talking to all of you.
The only HOH in the game i was worried about was Klaus, because i had previously evicted him. And i was right to be because i was put on the block, which was deserved and smart for his game. I felt safe with you (ari) & Liza and the three of us won most of the other hohs in the jury phase so i was never really worried about much when it came to being nominated.
The only real regret i have in this game is not winning the veto the week Kam went home because i would have saved one of them and been able to keep my word and i wouldn't be in this position of looking like a malicious person. I wasn't telling them both i wanted to go to the end with them to purposely lie or manipulate anyone, it was the truth.. i was just too overconfident in my ability to win the veto (we had a 3/6 shot) and spoke too soon.
Ariana Grande
Join date : 2020-06-10
Subject: Re: Final 3 Sat Jun 27, 2020 1:35 pm
Shelli Poole wrote:
Ariana Grande wrote:
Pat! Obviously you were no comp beast LMAOOO, that's already been established. I worked closely with you, so I know how strategic and calculated your moves were. You knew you couldn't rely on wins with Shelli, Rose, and Liza in the game and had to play differently.
It's definitely difficult to quantify your social game for the jury, so I will ask you to specify your social game within the context of each juror. I know you heavily influenced my replacement nom. I personally was going to do kam, and Liza also wanted kam up, but you encouraged Bea.
Liza and Shelli, it seems the jury is unimpressed with your social games, share something you learned from or about each member of the jury. Which hohs were you nervous about throughout the game? What would you do differently after hearing the criticism?
Hey Ari!! thanks for the question.
Out of everyone in the game i definitely talked to you the most lol. I will own my social game wasn't as in depth as i had hoped that it could be. Most conversations i had were about the game with the exception of a few of you. Games on twitter are easy to communicate because its just dms but when i played this game i only played on my laptop for the most part so id only have so many hours to talk to people but i always tried to ask if most people had a good day and ask how they were feeling. Regardless, nothing was copied and pasted and i did enjoy talking to all of you.
The only HOH in the game i was worried about was Klaus, because i had previously evicted him. And i was right to be because i was put on the block, which was deserved and smart for his game. I felt safe with you (ari) & Liza and the three of us won most of the other hohs in the jury phase so i was never really worried about much when it came to being nominated.
The only real regret i have in this game is not winning the veto the week Kam went home because i would have saved one of them and been able to keep my word and i wouldn't be in this position of looking like a malicious person. I wasn't telling them both i wanted to go to the end with them to purposely lie or manipulate anyone, it was the truth.. i was just too overconfident in my ability to win the veto (we had a 3/6 shot) and spoke too soon.
lmaoo ty for the reply shelli! I definitely do not think that is malicious
To everyone: some short and sweet q's
what's the most savage thing you did in the game? worst lie you told? single best move you made? fun story/fact about anything in the game? anything you want to clarify to the house?
it seems like most of the questioning is over...
Patrick Star
Join date : 2020-06-10
Subject: Re: Final 3 Sat Jun 27, 2020 1:37 pm
Ariana Grande wrote:
Pat! Obviously you were no comp beast LMAOOO, that's already been established. I worked closely with you, so I know how strategic and calculated your moves were. You knew you couldn't rely on wins with Shelli, Rose, and Liza in the game and had to play differently.
It's definitely difficult to quantify your social game for the jury, so I will ask you to specify your social game within the context of each juror. I know you heavily influenced my replacement nom. I personally was going to do kam, and Liza also wanted kam up, but you encouraged Bea.
Liza and Shelli, it seems the jury is unimpressed with your social games, share something you learned from or about each member of the jury. Which hohs were you nervous about throughout the game? What would you do differently after hearing the criticism?
Ariana I missed you so much in this game, your eviction was the hardest. And yes I am first going to start with your HOH. Bea and Kam were two allies I felt I could trust in this game. However, during your HOH the reason I suggested Bea was for my long-term game (Bea was a little less active in the game so I felt Kam was a more reliable ally), and for hopes of 6 pack reforming. I ALWAYS wanted to go back to our original alliance because I gave my word to the alliance from the beginning. However, since the alliance fell apart, I still knew I was in a good place in the game with Kam staying because I was super close with you and Peter and same with Klaus and Kam. Now I will explain my social game with each juror. To Rue, I never backstabbed you during my HOH, despite us not being on the same side game-wise. I felt really good with you personally so I knew putting you on the block would not benefit me in anyway. Also, when you got evicted, I had no idea you were going to be put on the block but I guess that is in part to all the side alliances Momo was in. To Lauren, I knew you were not on my team. Being an HOH is hard in itself to target two people, but I knew it was my best game move at the time. I was in an excellent position with my alliance and in a great spot with the rest of the house but I still never backdoored you or tried to stab you in the back since I never gave you my word in this game and you never gave me your word in this game. To Momo, I lost your vote but I really don't understand why you are personally bothered by me. To Bea, I saw you win that puzzle so quickly and you were a wild card in this game. However, I always told you where my head was at for certain spot and I was in a tough situation during Ariana's HOH because I knew two of my allies were going to see the block (either you or Kam). I made a decision in my pitch, without making promises that I couldn't keep, to try and foreshadow the best case possible to take me to the end. And it did work in the end. To Barney: It was tough seeing you go because we did connect personally so well. Also, during my HOH we had a conversation and I gave you my word that you were good with me and I wouldn't put you up which I stuck with 100%. Also, during my campaigns to stay while you were on the block, I never threw you under the bus to anyone I campaigned to and I truthfully fought to stay. I never did anything to betray you in this game. To Ariana: Queen you were my everything in this game. From all our talks to all our strategic plans. You were the one I came to to strategize everything. And by me shifting your nominations towards Bea instead of Kam I was looking out for the both of us the best I could. The plan I had was it could be a stepping stone for me, you, Peter, Kam and Klaus to reunite and carry this game with the numbers we had. But sadly, the votes flipped and I was blindsided. I never betrayed you in this game and you know that, and I really wanted to go to the end with you 100%. To Kam: I can honestly say you are one of the most genuine people I met. You never sugar-coated anything in this game. I respected that so much and I did everything in my power to look out for you, even though I didn't have your vote to stay and without jeopardizing my game. I felt betrayed again when the votes flipped and you ended up getting evicted but I had to respond AGAIN. Without a doubt though I love you so much Kam. To Klaus: You were my main man in this game. I never wanted to betray you in this game and I managed to stick by that word 100%. You were an amazing competitor and I am honored I got to play this game with you. It sucked to see you, Ariana, and peter all go home in that same night because I knew the odds weren't in my favor. However, I overcame those odds to make it here. To David: Even though we didn't see eye to eye late in this game, I never betrayed you. You deserved my honesty and I appreciated your honesty in return to me. Based on how events played out and how the double vote was used in Bea's eviction, I felt you were going to target me. We just happened to be on two different teams in the end, but you played one heck of a game. I respected that and I never wanted to be dishonest and male promises I wouldn't be able to keep. To Rose: Rose, you were a FORCE and an ICON. And I will go against the popular opinion of making an alliance with you only because you were a competition beast. I never made that with you because it would be superficial. However, I did reach out to you because I genuinely believed you deserved to be back in this game and I was speaking from the heart. I never approached you and said "oh let's make a final 2" because you were a comp beast because I knew it would be superficial and a promise I wouldn't be able to live up to. With that being said, I still fought to honestly campaign to you and Liza who owed me nothing in this game. And in the end, it got me to where I am right now. And to answer your other question Ariana about the HOH I was scared about the most. It would probably be David's. I got the sense that I would be going up but even though I campaigned to avoid that from happening, I was scared it would have a backlash on the rest of my game moving forward since me and Momo had a blow-up. However, I strategically avoided the block after that until Final 7. All these fast typing comps I was scared about, but I didn't lay down and give up because I was against the odds and didn't win the HOH's late on in the game. No. I fought with heart to make it here. And, on top of this, I still fulfilled my work commitments and my MCAT prep course. This game has been a wild ride but I love each and everyone of you guys so much!
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Shelli Poole
Join date : 2020-06-09
Subject: Re: Final 3 Sat Jun 27, 2020 1:38 pm
David Rose wrote:
To Liza- When Shelli put me up she said that it was because you promised not to vote me out...but then you did. Did your word matter at all during this game?
Patrick- What is your biggest regret in this game?
I feel like both of you girls snapped hard at the end with challenges, but you played more messy when Patrick didn't need to. Feel free to speak about that.
David, i was 100% a hot mess in the end of the game. After staying 8-0 to Danielle who hadn't won anything i figured that it was clear at that point that i was putting in work socially so i felt that people were going to target me for that and thats why i began to turn it up in the competitions which ultimately led to my word being broken because i couldn't win the vetos i wanted to. Patrick didnt need to play messy because he was frequently on the block with people who had played better that it made sense to send home like yourself. Its easy to not upset people when you aren't in a position of power.
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Kam
Join date : 2020-06-09
Subject: Re: Final 3 Sat Jun 27, 2020 1:39 pm
Shelli Poole wrote:
Ariana Grande wrote:
Pat! Obviously you were no comp beast LMAOOO, that's already been established. I worked closely with you, so I know how strategic and calculated your moves were. You knew you couldn't rely on wins with Shelli, Rose, and Liza in the game and had to play differently.
It's definitely difficult to quantify your social game for the jury, so I will ask you to specify your social game within the context of each juror. I know you heavily influenced my replacement nom. I personally was going to do kam, and Liza also wanted kam up, but you encouraged Bea.
Liza and Shelli, it seems the jury is unimpressed with your social games, share something you learned from or about each member of the jury. Which hohs were you nervous about throughout the game? What would you do differently after hearing the criticism?
Hey Ari!! thanks for the question.
Out of everyone in the game i definitely talked to you the most lol. I will own my social game wasn't as in depth as i had hoped that it could be. Most conversations i had were about the game with the exception of a few of you. Games on twitter are easy to communicate because its just dms but when i played this game i only played on my laptop for the most part so id only have so many hours to talk to people but i always tried to ask if most people had a good day and ask how they were feeling. Regardless, nothing was copied and pasted and i did enjoy talking to all of you.
The only HOH in the game i was worried about was Klaus, because i had previously evicted him. And i was right to be because i was put on the block, which was deserved and smart for his game. I felt safe with you (ari) & Liza and the three of us won most of the other hohs in the jury phase so i was never really worried about much when it came to being nominated.
The only real regret i have in this game is not winning the veto the week Kam went home because i would have saved one of them and been able to keep my word and i wouldn't be in this position of looking like a malicious person. I wasn't telling them both i wanted to go to the end with them to purposely lie or manipulate anyone, it was the truth.. i was just too overconfident in my ability to win the veto (we had a 3/6 shot) and spoke too soon.
Shelli I hope you know that I don’t see it as malicious but simply just as a horrible game move. I’m analyzing it based on game and nothing else I promise. I truly like you as a person <3
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Shelli Poole
Join date : 2020-06-09
Subject: Re: Final 3 Sat Jun 27, 2020 1:41 pm
Kam wrote:
Shelli Poole wrote:
Ariana Grande wrote:
Pat! Obviously you were no comp beast LMAOOO, that's already been established. I worked closely with you, so I know how strategic and calculated your moves were. You knew you couldn't rely on wins with Shelli, Rose, and Liza in the game and had to play differently.
It's definitely difficult to quantify your social game for the jury, so I will ask you to specify your social game within the context of each juror. I know you heavily influenced my replacement nom. I personally was going to do kam, and Liza also wanted kam up, but you encouraged Bea.
Liza and Shelli, it seems the jury is unimpressed with your social games, share something you learned from or about each member of the jury. Which hohs were you nervous about throughout the game? What would you do differently after hearing the criticism?
Hey Ari!! thanks for the question.
Out of everyone in the game i definitely talked to you the most lol. I will own my social game wasn't as in depth as i had hoped that it could be. Most conversations i had were about the game with the exception of a few of you. Games on twitter are easy to communicate because its just dms but when i played this game i only played on my laptop for the most part so id only have so many hours to talk to people but i always tried to ask if most people had a good day and ask how they were feeling. Regardless, nothing was copied and pasted and i did enjoy talking to all of you.
The only HOH in the game i was worried about was Klaus, because i had previously evicted him. And i was right to be because i was put on the block, which was deserved and smart for his game. I felt safe with you (ari) & Liza and the three of us won most of the other hohs in the jury phase so i was never really worried about much when it came to being nominated.
The only real regret i have in this game is not winning the veto the week Kam went home because i would have saved one of them and been able to keep my word and i wouldn't be in this position of looking like a malicious person. I wasn't telling them both i wanted to go to the end with them to purposely lie or manipulate anyone, it was the truth.. i was just too overconfident in my ability to win the veto (we had a 3/6 shot) and spoke too soon.
Shelli I hope you know that I don’t see it as malicious but simply just as a horrible game move. I’m analyzing it based on game and nothing else I promise. I truly like you as a person <3
And i agree with you!! I know it sucked, and i wish it could have went differently despite it getting me here regardless. For sure if i won that veto the game would have played out much differently
Shelli Poole
Join date : 2020-06-09
Subject: Re: Final 3 Sat Jun 27, 2020 1:46 pm
Also, on a point that some competitions were based on speed and wifi i just want to point out that every timed competition i went through the effort of having two tabs open, and my phone open on a website that gave me the exact current time in seconds.
This let me read the hoh comp, have my diary room open to post and also make sure to time my posts to exactly 10 seconds so that i could ensure the most posts possible and the fastest speed without losing time because of the flood warning.
Its so funny because the first competition that came down to me and rose i was drinking throughout and after we tied the first time the alcohol just hit and i fucked up the tie breaker round so bad ksncnadcksdc
Patrick Star
Join date : 2020-06-10
Subject: Re: Final 3 Sat Jun 27, 2020 1:47 pm
Ariana Grande wrote:
Shelli Poole wrote:
Ariana Grande wrote:
Pat! Obviously you were no comp beast LMAOOO, that's already been established. I worked closely with you, so I know how strategic and calculated your moves were. You knew you couldn't rely on wins with Shelli, Rose, and Liza in the game and had to play differently.
It's definitely difficult to quantify your social game for the jury, so I will ask you to specify your social game within the context of each juror. I know you heavily influenced my replacement nom. I personally was going to do kam, and Liza also wanted kam up, but you encouraged Bea.
Liza and Shelli, it seems the jury is unimpressed with your social games, share something you learned from or about each member of the jury. Which hohs were you nervous about throughout the game? What would you do differently after hearing the criticism?
Hey Ari!! thanks for the question.
Out of everyone in the game i definitely talked to you the most lol. I will own my social game wasn't as in depth as i had hoped that it could be. Most conversations i had were about the game with the exception of a few of you. Games on twitter are easy to communicate because its just dms but when i played this game i only played on my laptop for the most part so id only have so many hours to talk to people but i always tried to ask if most people had a good day and ask how they were feeling. Regardless, nothing was copied and pasted and i did enjoy talking to all of you.
The only HOH in the game i was worried about was Klaus, because i had previously evicted him. And i was right to be because i was put on the block, which was deserved and smart for his game. I felt safe with you (ari) & Liza and the three of us won most of the other hohs in the jury phase so i was never really worried about much when it came to being nominated.
The only real regret i have in this game is not winning the veto the week Kam went home because i would have saved one of them and been able to keep my word and i wouldn't be in this position of looking like a malicious person. I wasn't telling them both i wanted to go to the end with them to purposely lie or manipulate anyone, it was the truth.. i was just too overconfident in my ability to win the veto (we had a 3/6 shot) and spoke too soon.
lmaoo ty for the reply shelli! I definitely do not think that is malicious
To everyone: some short and sweet q's
what's the most savage thing you did in the game? worst lie you told? single best move you made? fun story/fact about anything in the game? anything you want to clarify to the house?
it seems like most of the questioning is over...
1. Most savage move I did in this game: get Momo on the block and evicted instead of me LMAO. I was caught up with my words and almost ended up going home which leads me into my next answer. 2. This isn't really a lie but the reason why me and Momo blew up was about the 2 votes Momo received against Rose. I never lied to Momo but I did have to protect myself when Momo took what I told him to David and had to say that Momo was lying in order to save myself. But in the end it did work haha. 3. The single best move I made were my campaigns to Rose and Liza to stay in this house. I knew Shelli wanted me gone after Rose saved herself and I knew the votes weren't guaranteed. However, I strategically pitched unique approaches to both Rose and Liza and ended up getting the votes to stay in this game. 4. I think a fun story about this game would probably be the ability for all of us to shift our focus from personal to game. It is so funny and interesting to me as people to just keep personal and game separate even though we are playing a game for a winner. 5. One thing to clarify: No matter what happens tonight, I love everyone so much. This game was so much fun. Even though I didn't win the most competitions, that shouldn't define me as inadequate to win this game. I was always strategizing the best possible route to get to the end without falling back on any promises. Integrity is really important to me no matter what I do in life so I did what I could to stick true to myself as well as fight to make it to the end.
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Patrick Star
Join date : 2020-06-10
Subject: Re: Final 3 Sat Jun 27, 2020 1:51 pm
David Rose wrote:
To Liza- When Shelli put me up she said that it was because you promised not to vote me out...but then you did. Did your word matter at all during this game?
Patrick- What is your biggest regret in this game?
I feel like both of you girls snapped hard at the end with challenges, but you played more messy when Patrick didn't need to. Feel free to speak about that.
Hey David excellent question! My biggest regret in this game would probably be not using that veto on Kam and taking my chances of Shelli getting nominated and going home. I knew if Shelli were to win an HOH I would be going up on the block, which was true. And this is nothing personal, but I could see the type of social game she was playing compared to me so I knew I was on her radar. I felt I acted on that decision a little too quickly based on the fact that I remembered you and Kam evicting me. However, I knew I couldn't dwell on the past so I had to move forward in the game to where I am now and I did so without creating any messy waves or unkept promises. Love you so much David and thanks so much for the question!
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Patrick Star
Join date : 2020-06-10
Subject: Re: Final 3 Sat Jun 27, 2020 1:56 pm
Shelli Poole wrote:
David Rose wrote:
To Liza- When Shelli put me up she said that it was because you promised not to vote me out...but then you did. Did your word matter at all during this game?
Patrick- What is your biggest regret in this game?
I feel like both of you girls snapped hard at the end with challenges, but you played more messy when Patrick didn't need to. Feel free to speak about that.
David, i was 100% a hot mess in the end of the game. After staying 8-0 to Danielle who hadn't won anything i figured that it was clear at that point that i was putting in work socially so i felt that people were going to target me for that and thats why i began to turn it up in the competitions which ultimately led to my word being broken because i couldn't win the vetos i wanted to. Patrick didnt need to play messy because he was frequently on the block with people who had played better that it made sense to send home like yourself. Its easy to not upset people when you aren't in a position of power.
This may true as the reason why I didn't play messy but I also wasn't handed a final 3 spot. I strategically and honestly campaigned with heart to get the votes and the odds were against me.
Shelli Poole
Join date : 2020-06-09
Subject: Re: Final 3 Sat Jun 27, 2020 1:56 pm
Ariana Grande wrote:
To everyone: some short and sweet q's
what's the most savage thing you did in the game? worst lie you told? single best move you made? fun story/fact about anything in the game? anything you want to clarify to the house?
it seems like most of the questioning is over...
1. The most savage thing i did in the game was posting "Yeah i said it" by rihanna in the chat after i got exposed by Kam because... yeah, i said that lmfao .. i truly had no other words
2. I guess the worst lie i told was telling Kam she had my vote but it wasnt a lie at first because i truly thought she would have. Idk what went through my mind that night.
3. The best move i made was using the veto on Lauren Jauregui that ended up getting Rose back doored. This move saved one of my top allies, who was also not very well connected so i thought she was someone who would go home next to me if nominated together after i saved her with the veto. This move also made Klaus the next biggest target in the house, once Rose was gone Klaus had all the heat on him so it was another person in the game to be targeted over me.
4. Fun fact during the Luxury comp i got yelled at by a customer at work because i was using my phone at the register.... JNSKLVJSVSROFR and i never even ended up needing my extra vote advantage but i got yelled at for getting it
5. I just want to clarify, although ive said it a million times, that i never intentionally lied to anyone except for Klaus on the first time i evicted him prejury and wasnt sure if he was going to stay or not. Im just dumb and maybe shouldnt have told people my endgame hopes too early on.
Thanks for the questions ari!!!<3
Shelli Poole
Join date : 2020-06-09
Subject: Re: Final 3 Sat Jun 27, 2020 1:59 pm
Patrick Star wrote:
Shelli Poole wrote:
David Rose wrote:
To Liza- When Shelli put me up she said that it was because you promised not to vote me out...but then you did. Did your word matter at all during this game?
Patrick- What is your biggest regret in this game?
I feel like both of you girls snapped hard at the end with challenges, but you played more messy when Patrick didn't need to. Feel free to speak about that.
David, i was 100% a hot mess in the end of the game. After staying 8-0 to Danielle who hadn't won anything i figured that it was clear at that point that i was putting in work socially so i felt that people were going to target me for that and thats why i began to turn it up in the competitions which ultimately led to my word being broken because i couldn't win the vetos i wanted to. Patrick didnt need to play messy because he was frequently on the block with people who had played better that it made sense to send home like yourself. Its easy to not upset people when you aren't in a position of power.
This may true as the reason why I didn't play messy but I also wasn't handed a final 3 spot. I strategically and honestly campaigned with heart to get the votes and the odds were against me.
I dont think that either!!!! i think you worked just as hard to get here im just saying you didnt have the same opportunity to upset people like i did winning 3 hohs in the jury phase.