Final 2

You stayed up for 24 hours but you won’t stay up for this?

Okay bye.

SKSKSKS It was 31 hours but I’m still sleep deprived from that comp XD

I don't understand how you two did that but it gave me time to prepare for part 2&3 and it almost paid off

Ok yall I promise u I’m coming into this with an open mind, I rlly want to vote for the best player but Hange I’ve go to be honest I’ve read through and im still rlly struggling to find a valid reason as to why you took beast all the way to the final 2 with you when you had sooooo many opportunities to take him out. And it can’t be about numbers and keeper biggest targets cos at the final 6 that all means shit all, final 6 is no longer a numbers game.

Everyone should have access to the DR now. Votes due at 6pm EST

ok just read through everything and a lot of the questions I was gonna ask have already been asked and answered so I don't really have any additional ones. Just wanted to wish both Beast and Hange the best of luck <3

My fellow BABEEESEEEEESSSSS I’m so proud of you both! 🧡🧡🧡

I have no questions, I feel like they were answered in your speeches.

I thought you both played a phenomenal game. You both put in a lot of work and are deserving of these two seats. Congratulations to you both.

I will say this-

Beast, I’m sorry I didn’t believe you with that Stefan vote. Even though we were in an alliance was really hard to trust you fully because it felt like you were just telling everyone the same thing you told me lol. Still love you though.

Hange, you did a lot of work for the Babes... And I couldn’t fully trust you until Hottie was out because I know you spent a lot of time protecting her from the Babes. I still think evicting Hottie was not in your best interest at all lol!

But I just wanted to point something out in your speech— you did actually unnecessarily lie after Casino Night when you said you were “saving” your coin because you thought it would be useful to purchase something later on in the game. Then you turn around and low-key chastise me for not revealing I purchased a nullifier when I used it against Dua to save myself.

And the whole time you’re sitting on a stack of double votes. It’s not a lie when you say nothing and don’t volunteer the information.

You could have said nothing at all but instead you chose to guilt me about not being forthcoming to the Babes about purchasing a power when you literally did the same thing... Still love you though.

Jackie answers:

1. I’m someone who truly believes that the end justifies the means. I have been upfront and honest about every one of my lies the moment they came about or have resurfaced, and if I haven’t addressed them already, then I will now. Not to be completely rude to Beast Boy, but as someone who understands he’s taking too much credit- I’m willing to say that I relied on luck sometimes. To be a winner in this game; you have to get lucky. I did not pioneer every single eviction, though I had a hand in a lot, lots of influences were team decisions, other people’s doings, etc, etc.

2. Some strengths that I was unaware of was certainly how I’d perform in competitions and the bonds that I would make with people like you and Beast- I didn’t think I was capable of making such strong bonds with people, characterized by my poor bonds with others.

3. My weakness should be obvious; in the jury portion of the game, my social strategy fell off. I believe it was due to the sheer nature of having such a large cast that I simply got tired of this ^_^ facade. Not only that, but I have an unwavering ability to not lie unless it’s a conscious decision or if it could benefit me game-wise, so I ended up saying things that got me in trouble. Though, very early on, I decided to use this as a strategy As far back as HOTTIE’s eviction, perhaps even Rob’s- I have been telling everyone that the jury would not respect me. They wouldn’t understand my moves or my gameplay- and that it would carry me until the end. I’ve said this in some of my other answers, but being guaranteed F2 at the F5 is pretty impressive (not to sound like a dick, I just genuinely think that’s at least somewhat of a feat.)So, part of my strategy was to double-down. I was betting on the Jury being able to look past that and be able to vote for the person who had the better game- the better social standings that made it to the end. Sure, none of my relationships were perfect, but it’s certainly a marvel how I made it to the end given that fact. I was such an emotional player that I had to manually notch up my strategic awareness tenfold

4.sorry Jackie! I’m not going to do ALL of them, but I’m going to do some notable outliers.
Some SUPER fun comps include: Story Time, Lucky :07, Wish Upon A Unicorn, Namely Knock Out, Puzzle Heist, Sink My Battleship, Attention Span, Get Ready To Rumble, SHADY SUPERLATIVES: THE REMIX, Laser Focused, and Colour Me Shocked.

Some ones that I didn’t find fun were nearly every questions comp; They’re fun, but not when there’s too mamy of them! They all blend together, I can’t distinctly tell anything apart from each other without the descritpive notes I have.

Skeeter Valentine wrote:

My fellow BABEEESEEEEESSSSS I’m so proud of you both! 🧡🧡🧡

I have no questions, I feel like they were answered in your speeches.

I thought you both played a phenomenal game. You both put in a lot of work and are deserving of these two seats. Congratulations to you both.

I will say this-

Beast, I’m sorry I didn’t believe you with that Stefan vote. Even though we were in an alliance was really hard to trust you fully because it felt like you were just telling everyone the same thing you told me lol. Still love you though.

Hange, you did a lot of work for the Babes... And I couldn’t fully trust you until Hottie was out because I know you spent a lot of time protecting her from the Babes. I still think evicting Hottie was not in your best interest at all lol!

But I just wanted to point something out in your speech— you did actually unnecessarily lie after Casino Night when you said you were “saving” your coin because you thought it would be useful to purchase something later on in the game. Then you turn around and low-key chastise me for not revealing I purchased a nullifier when I used it against Dua to save myself.

And the whole time you’re sitting on a stack of double votes. It’s not a lie when you say nothing and don’t volunteer the information.

You could have said nothing at all but instead you chose to guilt me about not being forthcoming to the Babes about purchasing a power when you literally did the same thing... Still love you though.

Of course I did! I was VERY willing to use my double votes to save you... But only if you couldn’t do that yourself! :p No need to waste votes. Sorry I did that, but I still stand firm on that decision. That was mainly a lie where the intent was “Oh, I’ll try and make him think that it’s HIS fault to make him think I care the most about his safety,” in retrospect, not the most ~amazing~ lie, but at least I’m on this stage being honest about my game

SZA wrote:

ngl i was actually inactive i never lied- just popped on to answer some chats and got busy in the middle of responding LOL i wish i was lying abt being inactive maybe i'd have gotten further- but nah it was all the truth sadly. anyway congratulations to you both.

My question for Hange:
Knowing that you would probably like piss off a good amount of the Jury, why wait till we're leaving to be honest? especially when we know the truth and clearly state it, why avoid it? Also what was that whole "Let's make a deal" thing because >_< at that point it really does feel like just a bad method of jury management..?

My question for Beast Boy:
I noticed you said that without the Babes, you don't think you would be here. You mention them ALOT. Do you think that without your physical prowess you would have still made it this far? Without the physical strength, why should I vote for you, besides the babes?


and if yall answered this in some form or w/e just repeat because i... did not read all tht. im so sry. xd

Lmao don’t worry about it, I’m happy to go into details.

I do think that without my physical prowess, I likely wouldn’t have been such a target. In a way, I’m not sure if the trio would have happened if I weren’t, but had it happened I think the end game would have shaped up pretty differently. No one would be directly after me for my skills. Winning competitions was a blessing and a curse because it kept me safe, but it also just made the target on my back that much bigger.

I think that you ought to vote for me because I was telling everyone how it was. I didn’t cloak my desires and I never put anyone down for their personal game moves, even when they chose to vote a different way than I might have one week, or suggested different targets than the ones I focused on during my HOHs. I think I was a kind and mindful player that did his best to make sure not to be a huge dick. I think my social game was strong regardless of competition. Without Babes, I would just have singular relationships. I put so much on that because it’s really the only group of four that actually stuck together for me. Skeeter won a few comps and had the drive and unfortunately Veronica didn’t win many - but I was still friends with Skeeter one on one. Without the babes, I think I would have still been protected, I just don’t like to not say that they were important because they were in the game I actually played.

I hope that answers this! Let me know if not.

Christian Hubicki wrote:

Ok yall I promise u I’m coming into this with an open mind, I rlly want to vote for the best player but Hange I’ve go to be honest I’ve read through and im still rlly struggling to find a valid reason as to why you took beast all the way to the final 2 with you when you had sooooo many opportunities to take him out. And it can’t be about numbers and keeper biggest targets cos at the final 6 that all means shit all, final 6 is no longer a numbers game.

You’re right that F6 is not about numbers at that point in the game. I will present my case for this decision in two parts.

Part 1 is why Veronica was equally important to get rid of. Veronica was one of, if not, the only one not dragging me to finals. Beast Boy is also dragging HER to the finals. By eliminating her, I then make sure that EVERYONE takes me to the finals at the Final 5 and that I don’t need to rely on winning comps to push me forward. Part 2 is my strategic standpoint: Unlike Beast Boy, I was never in danger if I had lost a comp (minus one veto during SZA’s HoH, though I wasn’t in danger at all if anyone but Beast Boy won it.) I always had a safety net to fall on. If I counted on winning one comp a week after I became the next most evictable person, I’d be in rough shape. I kept Beast Boy in because, socially, I needed to get to the end. Realistically, I wanted him gone... But getting to the end is far stronger of a reason than cutting him. Sure, it would have been considered a “winning move,” but... What good is a winning move when I’m the next one out of the house?

I don’t want to sit here and trash my fellow F2 partner, I love Beast Boy! But I’m telling you all my game and my reasonings behind everything. I’m being completely transparent whether or not it helps me; Beast Boy is still lying and Jury Managing you all! If your game is so much better, don’t be shy! Give the immense amounts of credit to Jackie, Hange, Skeeter, and all the others that helped you get to this situation :p You can’t “use” or “manipulate” an ally, that’s just an ally

I think what Christian's saying is the excuse for keeping him as often numbers and I remember you using that same excuse at top 4/5 and it was really draining it left everyone else no room to actually gain until he made a move on the both of you. I feel like as soon as the jury phase hits that the appropriate time to cut someone like that because he was unbeatable, clearly!

Jackie Burkhart wrote:

BEAST, the game you played has been extremely impressive. When you came up to me early on, you had “sneaky used car salesmen” stamped on your forehead, but you were also charming enough that I didn’t find you unbearable. I think you came to play hard and you never lost sight of what you set out to do. I know a lot of people painted this narrative that you’re an amazing player, which I think is true, but I do think you have flaws in your game, which is why players like Veronica and myself had no problem going with you to finals. Obviously Veronica would have stood true to that but I had reason to suspect the jury would vote based on emotion, and I did not have the charisma to win them over which is why I HAD to turn on you. Otherwise it would have been fun to try to get us both into finals.

Just a few things,

I did not want Veronica nominated when she was nominated by Johnny. That was something he wanted to do on his own. I even told up I was going to vote out Dua.

You mentioned that you did not throw a single competition yet both you and Hange threw a HOH to me. And I know you have a whole encyclopedia on the events chronicled this last season so I know you did not look that over.

For me, the jury questioning is about being raw and 100% honest. I understand you need to say what you need to say in order to win people over but right now you have the best chance of winning. The biggest problem people have with your game is that you’re not being authentic. You have this facade up and everyone knows you’re putting on a front. Be yourself. If someone or something annoys you, say it. I feel like if someone smacked you in the face you’d just smile and say thank you.

That being said, if we the jury feel like you’re playing it up to appeal to our votes and lying about certain things or misleading people, then you lose credibility and how are we supposed to trust the words you type if we know you’re already being deceptive? This is your time to be honest. Trust me, the jury will see through any of your antics to save face.

Also, a little humility goes a long way. It’s one thing to want to own up to your game but it’s another to basically position yourself as the center of the universe this season when you had many people who were instrumental to your success. I’m not even talking about me, because I think our interests aligned coincidentally rather than deliberately. I feel like there are players like Veronica and Hange who have done many things for you in this game to keep you safe but you don’t really give Veronica much credit despite her being the one pulling the strings (which also makes us wonder how much you actually did on your own versus doing what she told you to do) and you don’t really give Hange much credit even though she’s had a huge hand in you staying and you’re just shitting on her game (which she may or may not deserve but that’s neither here nor there).

Regardless, my read on you was pretty spot on and being in the jury house only validates what I thought your gameplay was. And no, it’s not a drag on your game. I do think you were in the driver’s seat for most of the time. It’s just hard to tell how often you had to ask for directions from your backseat driver

Hi Jackie!!

First off, thank you for confirming that I would have been the target R5. I knew I was in trouble, girl! That's why I had to win lmao.

Thanks for the clarification on Johnny and that being his own move. We haven't really discussed HOW close you two were, other than that you were pretty much his #1 from the start. Can't control everyone, so that's eye opening

As for that HOH - I *did* actually lose lmao. I didn't know the answer by the end. Yeah, we were chatting about wanting to throw, but I'm not a thrower per se and there's a world where I knew that question and became HOH that week. But, even with intention, I can't throw without knowing what the answer was and avoiding it.

I do agree that there was a lot of coincidence that made my trip here a whole lot easier - definitely accurate. I promise I'm not trying to put up a facade. I have been angry, screamed in the DR, and every once in a while, other jury members would hear me breaking in our private messages. I had to keep things cute publicly because I wasn't about the dislike game, but I *do* think by the end, people saw that I'm actually a nice person and not just trying to lie for brownie points.

I do love your analogy and perspective from the jury. When Hange had power, she was going to do what she wanted to do. I understand that, but I was able to use our coincidental situation to aim at the people that would benefit me AND her in the end. I don't mean to shit on Hange, she did a fantastic job to get here, but I need to differentiate us -- and the main difference is our attitude.

Veronica helped me out a lot, BUT her main influence was keeping April in this game for as long as April stayed, to me personally. She would give me her opinion on each eviction, but again, with coincidence, we were already aligned. It looks like a ton of people influenced me when in fact, like you said, we were already going after the same people.

I'm all for humility. Jackie, Hange, and Veronica were really important to me throughout the game. But I won what I won, and always had the decision to change things, but kept going with my own plan that aligned with my allies' plans.

I guess my question is, do you want to the buy the car with 0 dollars down?