Final 2

Russell Brand wrote:

Congrats you two. It should be no surprise, I've been "lurking" in the background the whole time. IRL, Amy, Kway, and I figured out who one another was on twitter; go figure and we've been watching and talking.  BOTH of you deserve to be final 2. And yes, Buffy, you figured out to cut loose when you did. I'd figured out Aaron and Buffy very early simply by watching who was online at 3 am.  If it was those two and me, and nobody was posting or talking to me... I called out Buffy and poof, the Ice Queen emerged. DW, you were right to put us (Pedro and me) up. So Kudos to both of you.  Jury, great questions.

Only regret?  I had sent a final message to Arisa to post on my behalf and it never made it. Readers Digest? I told her you were all upstanding folks and did not use any of the language i referenced. Those were terms I'd faced growing up so I was very sensitized to anything related to them real or imagined. Diary rooms will show that I had two survival moves...Dans Funeral when Sad Russell appeared and Johnny Fairplay with ADHD.  Problem was I do have it and so does my son (medicated with focalin). It got too real and set it all off.  So, I apologize for that. In the end, it made for an online game equal or better than many IRL seasons. YOU all did a fantastic job!  Arisa, thank you.

See you in Twitter DMs in a bit Amy

lol he who blew me up <3

Villanelle wrote:

DW wrote:

Ok, to finally answer Villanelle's questions:

First of all, thank you so much. You don't have to apologize to me at all lmao. I wasn't so much campaigning against you and I was campaigning for Cameron because I had a close relationship with her. Also, to me, you were the scariest person in the game. You were amazing at competitions and I could never really read you, which is a compliment to your game. Also, at that point I had just aligned with Buffy and Aaron and we as a group wanted you out so I just wanted to make it happen. It was never personal in the slightest. 

It makes me really sad that you didn't think I wanted to associate with you unless you had won. I know we didn't talk all the time, but I honestly wanted to have a friendship with you from day 1 and we talked here and there from the beginning. I actually did request a private room for us and we never got it for several days and I had to request it again, you can take that up with Arisa LMAO because I swear... If you think I didn't want to talk to you because we didn't get a private room until way late, please know I genuinely tried! I was always completely candid and honest with you too whenever we talked. I think the timing was just off for us. I was trying to convince you to go against Buffy and Aaron like I was at the time, and when I didn't think I could convince you I figured you were completely with them. Then I ended up alone and decided to align with them and we wanted to get you out bc you were such a threat.

I genuinely really like you as a person and a player. I thought you were a badass and we were like-minded. I had this whole scenario in my head where you and I would defeat Buffy and Aaron and sit in the final 2 together lol, no joke. I honestly think it was just a matter of bad timing and miscommunication, which is so unfortunate. I definitely made a mistake in not talking to you more consistently from the beginning. There was nothing you did wrong and you were definitely one of the most interesting people in the game. You deserved better in this game girl and I'm sorry. If we had come together and gotten on the same page just a couple days sooner, things probably would've been really different. I hope you can understand why I make the choices I did girl and I hope you can respect my game. <3

I respect the answer and I completely understand where you are coming from. From my perspective, the reason why I was getting so frustrated with you was because of how both of our timing for things didn't align.

I understand the philosophy "if you can't beat them, join them." But honestly, I know you found Pedro untrustworthy after he told me things you were saying. It's unfortunate you felt alone, because when you agreed to get rid of me and go with Buffy's desire there, you completely got rid of someone that was ready to go after them. Pedro was ready to fight as well, along with Natalie. There were options at your disposal. They were all swiftly eliminated and everyone was beholden to the power of Buffy and Aaron and it only took a luck challenge at final POV to get at least one of them out. Once all of their actual threats were gone, it seemed like everyone had such a defeatist, scared outlook on the game in regards to going after Buffy and Aaron.

I wish I had figured out a way to fight harder to convince you that there were more options than just boxing yourself in a situation where you have to go so deep into the game with THREAT #1 Buffy Summers, possibly the worst case scenario for anyone to go head to head with.

I know this wasn't my question, but I can't wait to find out who you are because you're fascinating lmao

Buffy Summers wrote:

Cameron Van Buren wrote:

Ok Buffy, here are my specific questions for you...

1) In your opening speech, you described your game as “defensive”. How is winning 5 HOH’s, 1 Veto, a DPOV, and a luxury competition to secure an extra jury vote defensive? If your game is considered defense, what would an offensive game look like?

2) From your perspective, why did you think you were target #1 and viewed as a villain?

3) You mentioned in my first set of questions that you needed to “get her (referencing DW) out of your hair” but you chose to bring her to Final 2. What do you think your chances are against her?

4) As I have learned in jury, it was you that set the gameplan in motion to sabotage me from winning the tokens HOH. I am aware that you told Dany that this is an HOH you shouldn’t win. Why wasn’t I given the same advice? And why did you work so hard to sabotage me so that I can go over? Was there strategy involved there with only 3 days of gameplay and we were in an alliance together?

5) Why tell me that you were going to keep me pre-veto and then tell me you were going to evict me post veto? You specifically said the jury told you that I started the alliance against you when you got to visit them and that’s why I needed to be evicted. They said they don’t remember that. What’s the truth?

6) I will say I was really disappointed to see some of your actions which I deemed unnecessary from your position. I was told by the jury you called me "Borrowed Time" and to see how you reacted to Natalie during her eviction throughout the game was cringey for me to watch. I find it hard to blame it on your passion for the game when with a forum like this, you have to deliberately type that and ensure that we see it. Can you talk a little bit about this? And what is borrowed time tbh? lol

7) Can you go into detail about your relationship with Aaron and how he played a role in getting you to the Final 2?

8) What is it about you that people in this game was prepared to bring you to the end and lose?

*subject to ask more questions lol*

1. It's defensive in the way that it wasn't how I wanted to play the game. I wanted to lay low, but once my name got thrown around, I had to win at certain times. It would be silly for me to throw HOHs once I was exposed, but I did relinquish control when I knew I could and I still did not get taken out. An offensive game would have been me relying on my social game to plant seeds of doubt in people's minds about other players. I had a keen sense for who was being sketchy and I would have played up my skills in that respect. 

2. I think I was targeted and made the villain because my name was thrown out there in the first few days, but I still found a way to avoid the block. The villain thing probable came from the fact that I can be an absolute asshole at times and I did enjoy evicting certain people. 

3. I don't think it's as easy as it would have been against Jim (no offense intended), but I was honest in my final reasoning for bringing her to Final 2. I may be a bitch at times, but I can be really soft, even to my own detriment.

4. I didn't give you the same advice about the fire tokens because I had a stronger bond with Dany. I knew it would get too messy if I warned you too. It was less about taking the win from you and more about giving the win to Russell because I was interested in the playing the game with him initially. I wanted to lay low and control the game and he was on my same wavelength at the time. 

5. I was not sure if I was going to evict you pre-veto because I was weighing the options of whether or not you would work with me in a way that would benefit me. When you stayed on the block, I realized if you stayed, you could gain traction in building something against me. And yes, I specifically asked if you made the alliance and I was told you did. But they also told me they could be lying. I decided to not risk it 

6. I have a very strong personality, which doesn't work well online without a series of hearts and lols. I never meant to be a jerk to anyone, but I was honestly just trying to play the part of villain after a while. It never was intended to cause actual hurt. The borrowed time comment was just me strategizing and saying your days were numbered. Nothing actually against you at all. 

7. Aaron started out as someone I just wanted to work with peripherally. But within a couple days, we ended up talking a ton and he started divulging info that he wouldn't have if I wasn't endgame. Aaron's role in final 2 was as my partner. Sure, I was the one that called the majority of the shots, but when he was adamant about something, I respected it. Aaron made my game life happier and easier to stomach. Once he used that idol on me, there was no way anyone was taking his spot. Aaron made life easier, but by no means would this be different without him. I would have found a way to stay in this game regardless of the deals I had to make. 

I feel like I just took a final lmao

Lmaoo. I'm trying to take my job as a juror as serious as possible. Sorry for so many questions. Also, the question next to a smiley face with the shades is an actual question. I tried numbering it and that's just how 8 ) ends up haha.

Cameron Van Buren wrote:

Buffy Summers wrote:

Cameron Van Buren wrote:

Ok Buffy, here are my specific questions for you...

1) In your opening speech, you described your game as “defensive”. How is winning 5 HOH’s, 1 Veto, a DPOV, and a luxury competition to secure an extra jury vote defensive? If your game is considered defense, what would an offensive game look like?

2) From your perspective, why did you think you were target #1 and viewed as a villain?

3) You mentioned in my first set of questions that you needed to “get her (referencing DW) out of your hair” but you chose to bring her to Final 2. What do you think your chances are against her?

4) As I have learned in jury, it was you that set the gameplan in motion to sabotage me from winning the tokens HOH. I am aware that you told Dany that this is an HOH you shouldn’t win. Why wasn’t I given the same advice? And why did you work so hard to sabotage me so that I can go over? Was there strategy involved there with only 3 days of gameplay and we were in an alliance together?

5) Why tell me that you were going to keep me pre-veto and then tell me you were going to evict me post veto? You specifically said the jury told you that I started the alliance against you when you got to visit them and that’s why I needed to be evicted. They said they don’t remember that. What’s the truth?

6) I will say I was really disappointed to see some of your actions which I deemed unnecessary from your position. I was told by the jury you called me "Borrowed Time" and to see how you reacted to Natalie during her eviction throughout the game was cringey for me to watch. I find it hard to blame it on your passion for the game when with a forum like this, you have to deliberately type that and ensure that we see it. Can you talk a little bit about this? And what is borrowed time tbh? lol

7) Can you go into detail about your relationship with Aaron and how he played a role in getting you to the Final 2?

8) What is it about you that people in this game was prepared to bring you to the end and lose?

*subject to ask more questions lol*

1. It's defensive in the way that it wasn't how I wanted to play the game. I wanted to lay low, but once my name got thrown around, I had to win at certain times. It would be silly for me to throw HOHs once I was exposed, but I did relinquish control when I knew I could and I still did not get taken out. An offensive game would have been me relying on my social game to plant seeds of doubt in people's minds about other players. I had a keen sense for who was being sketchy and I would have played up my skills in that respect. 

2. I think I was targeted and made the villain because my name was thrown out there in the first few days, but I still found a way to avoid the block. The villain thing probable came from the fact that I can be an absolute asshole at times and I did enjoy evicting certain people. 

3. I don't think it's as easy as it would have been against Jim (no offense intended), but I was honest in my final reasoning for bringing her to Final 2. I may be a bitch at times, but I can be really soft, even to my own detriment.

4. I didn't give you the same advice about the fire tokens because I had a stronger bond with Dany. I knew it would get too messy if I warned you too. It was less about taking the win from you and more about giving the win to Russell because I was interested in the playing the game with him initially. I wanted to lay low and control the game and he was on my same wavelength at the time. 

5. I was not sure if I was going to evict you pre-veto because I was weighing the options of whether or not you would work with me in a way that would benefit me. When you stayed on the block, I realized if you stayed, you could gain traction in building something against me. And yes, I specifically asked if you made the alliance and I was told you did. But they also told me they could be lying. I decided to not risk it 

6. I have a very strong personality, which doesn't work well online without a series of hearts and lols. I never meant to be a jerk to anyone, but I was honestly just trying to play the part of villain after a while. It never was intended to cause actual hurt. The borrowed time comment was just me strategizing and saying your days were numbered. Nothing actually against you at all. 

7. Aaron started out as someone I just wanted to work with peripherally. But within a couple days, we ended up talking a ton and he started divulging info that he wouldn't have if I wasn't endgame. Aaron's role in final 2 was as my partner. Sure, I was the one that called the majority of the shots, but when he was adamant about something, I respected it. Aaron made my game life happier and easier to stomach. Once he used that idol on me, there was no way anyone was taking his spot. Aaron made life easier, but by no means would this be different without him. I would have found a way to stay in this game regardless of the deals I had to make. 

I feel like I just took a final lmao

Lmaoo. I'm trying to take my job as a juror as serious as possible. Sorry for so many questions. Also, the question next to a smiley face with the shades is an actual question. I tried numbering it and that's just how 8 ) ends up haha.

LMAO my bad. I don't know what it is tbh. I just talked to people and gave my point of view on things and they listened. I think I was able to communicate my point effectively and I think that built with genuine friendship sealed the deal.

Please quote your question if I missed it! I'm sorry!

Thanks for the response Buffy. I guess I have one final question for you...

Can you paint a picture of how you get to the end without either Aaron or you winning comps? I guess you could start after the Syd vote. As you've stated everyone was practically against you, you felt you needed to win everything to advance. If you didn't win, your alliance member won so you were always protected which was evident because you literally was never nominated.

Thank you again for your definition of defense. I'm having a hard time seeing it tbh because when you win comps, it's grants you power to be able to dictate how a night goes and who is evicted as well as grants you safety for the night. For someone like myself who was unable to win comps, I had no choice but to rely on a good social game as defense in hopes that I avoid being nominated.

I feel as if I have a disconnect with what you're telling me and the game I experienced and I want them to align or to be enlightened. Thanks.

Cameron Van Buren wrote:

Thanks for the response Buffy. I guess I have one final question for you...

Can you paint a picture of how you get to the end without either Aaron or you winning comps? I guess you could start after the Syd vote. As you've stated everyone was practically against you, you felt you needed to win everything to advance. If you didn't win, your alliance member won so you were always protected which was evident because you literally was never nominated.

Thank you again for your definition of defense. I'm having a hard time seeing it tbh because when you win comps, it's grants you power to be able to dictate how a night goes and who is evicted as well as grants you safety for the night. For someone like myself who was unable to win comps, I had no choice but to rely on a good social game as defense in hopes that I avoid being nominated.

I feel as if I have a disconnect with what you're telling me and the game I experienced and I want them to align or to be enlightened. Thanks.

It became evident I had to win at times. Once it gets to a certain point, you have to win comps. There were clear times I could have been put up, but I wasn't. I was asked to put you up many a time. Many times I deflected from your name and that started as soon as Big 10. No one was against you, but people didn't see you as someone they were aligned with. We never had a room, but you were girl gang. Aaron wanted you gone well before you left, but I didn't let that happen. I don't feel I need to defend my comp wins because even when given the opportunity, no one got me on the block. I never even had to use my DPOV. An HOH win guarantees you dictate a night, but it doesn't guarantee the eviction you want. When it really mattered, I always got my target out. Even after everyone was set to vote out Kway because I had asked for it, I changed my mind and got the vote to flip. I am fully confident I could have succeeded with or without the comps, but once it came down to it, I did what I had to do to get here and it worked.

Buffy Summers wrote:

Cameron Van Buren wrote:

Thanks for the response Buffy. I guess I have one final question for you...

Can you paint a picture of how you get to the end without either Aaron or you winning comps? I guess you could start after the Syd vote. As you've stated everyone was practically against you, you felt you needed to win everything to advance. If you didn't win, your alliance member won so you were always protected which was evident because you literally was never nominated.

Thank you again for your definition of defense. I'm having a hard time seeing it tbh because when you win comps, it's grants you power to be able to dictate how a night goes and who is evicted as well as grants you safety for the night. For someone like myself who was unable to win comps, I had no choice but to rely on a good social game as defense in hopes that I avoid being nominated.

I feel as if I have a disconnect with what you're telling me and the game I experienced and I want them to align or to be enlightened. Thanks.

It became evident I had to win at times. Once it gets to a certain point, you have to win comps. There were clear times I could have been put up, but I wasn't. I was asked to put you up many a time. Many times I deflected from your name and that started as soon as Big 10. No one was against you, but people didn't see you as someone they were aligned with. We never had a room, but you were girl gang. Aaron wanted you gone well before you left, but I didn't let that happen. I don't feel I need to defend my comp wins because even when given the opportunity, no one got me on the block. I never even had to use my DPOV. An HOH win guarantees you dictate a night, but it doesn't guarantee the eviction you want. When it really mattered, I always got my target out. Even after everyone was set to vote out Kway because I had asked for it, I changed my mind and got the vote to flip. I am fully confident I could have succeeded with or without the comps, but once it came down to it, I did what I had to do to get here and it worked.

I know KWAY THE GENIUS, THE MASTER MANIPULATOR, THE SEED PLANTER EXTRAORDINAIRE probably wants to take credit for this.... but, when I nominated Syd and Big T when I was HOH, I was VERY close to pulling the trigger on Buffy and Aaron that round, and the talk me and Buffy had helped sway me from not targeting her yet.

She did work that night to try to stop me from nominating her, she might not have realized it but I was super close to doing it. It was Buffy's hard work with talking things out with me that prevented me from nominating her and making me decide to wait a little while longer before going after her.

It wasn't KWAY THE SOCIAL SAVANT that did it. It was Buffy.

Just to provide an example of an instance where she could've easily been on the block.

Villanelle wrote:

Buffy Summers wrote:

Cameron Van Buren wrote:

Thanks for the response Buffy. I guess I have one final question for you...

Can you paint a picture of how you get to the end without either Aaron or you winning comps? I guess you could start after the Syd vote. As you've stated everyone was practically against you, you felt you needed to win everything to advance. If you didn't win, your alliance member won so you were always protected which was evident because you literally was never nominated.

Thank you again for your definition of defense. I'm having a hard time seeing it tbh because when you win comps, it's grants you power to be able to dictate how a night goes and who is evicted as well as grants you safety for the night. For someone like myself who was unable to win comps, I had no choice but to rely on a good social game as defense in hopes that I avoid being nominated.

I feel as if I have a disconnect with what you're telling me and the game I experienced and I want them to align or to be enlightened. Thanks.

It became evident I had to win at times. Once it gets to a certain point, you have to win comps. There were clear times I could have been put up, but I wasn't. I was asked to put you up many a time. Many times I deflected from your name and that started as soon as Big 10. No one was against you, but people didn't see you as someone they were aligned with. We never had a room, but you were girl gang. Aaron wanted you gone well before you left, but I didn't let that happen. I don't feel I need to defend my comp wins because even when given the opportunity, no one got me on the block. I never even had to use my DPOV. An HOH win guarantees you dictate a night, but it doesn't guarantee the eviction you want. When it really mattered, I always got my target out. Even after everyone was set to vote out Kway because I had asked for it, I changed my mind and got the vote to flip. I am fully confident I could have succeeded with or without the comps, but once it came down to it, I did what I had to do to get here and it worked.

I know KWAY THE GENIUS, THE MASTER MANIPULATOR, THE SEED PLANTER EXTRAORDINAIRE probably wants to take credit for this.... but, when I nominated Syd and Big T when I was HOH, I was VERY close to pulling the trigger on Buffy and Aaron that round, and the talk me and Buffy had helped sway me from not targeting her yet.

She did work that night to try to stop me from nominating her, she might not have realized it but I was super close to doing it. It was Buffy's hard work with talking things out with me that prevented me from nominating her and making me decide to wait a little while longer before going after her.

It wasn't KWAY THE SOCIAL SAVANT that did it. It was Buffy.  

Here I thought it was my charm . That entire reply made me laugh V.

Who ever thought it was Kway?? LOL

Jim Halpert wrote:

Who ever thought it was Kway?? LOL

Kway was involved in a lot you were not privy to tbh

Jim Halpert wrote:

Who ever thought it was Kway?? LOL

People in the jury, Syd, Pedro and Dany told me that Kway in the pre-battle back/pre-jury thread was bragging like crazy about how he planted seeds in my head that influenced my decisions that night.

Villanelle wrote:

Buffy Summers wrote:

Cameron Van Buren wrote:

Thanks for the response Buffy. I guess I have one final question for you...

Can you paint a picture of how you get to the end without either Aaron or you winning comps? I guess you could start after the Syd vote. As you've stated everyone was practically against you, you felt you needed to win everything to advance. If you didn't win, your alliance member won so you were always protected which was evident because you literally was never nominated.

Thank you again for your definition of defense. I'm having a hard time seeing it tbh because when you win comps, it's grants you power to be able to dictate how a night goes and who is evicted as well as grants you safety for the night. For someone like myself who was unable to win comps, I had no choice but to rely on a good social game as defense in hopes that I avoid being nominated.

I feel as if I have a disconnect with what you're telling me and the game I experienced and I want them to align or to be enlightened. Thanks.

It became evident I had to win at times. Once it gets to a certain point, you have to win comps. There were clear times I could have been put up, but I wasn't. I was asked to put you up many a time. Many times I deflected from your name and that started as soon as Big 10. No one was against you, but people didn't see you as someone they were aligned with. We never had a room, but you were girl gang. Aaron wanted you gone well before you left, but I didn't let that happen. I don't feel I need to defend my comp wins because even when given the opportunity, no one got me on the block. I never even had to use my DPOV. An HOH win guarantees you dictate a night, but it doesn't guarantee the eviction you want. When it really mattered, I always got my target out. Even after everyone was set to vote out Kway because I had asked for it, I changed my mind and got the vote to flip. I am fully confident I could have succeeded with or without the comps, but once it came down to it, I did what I had to do to get here and it worked.

I know KWAY THE GENIUS, THE MASTER MANIPULATOR, THE SEED PLANTER EXTRAORDINAIRE probably wants to take credit for this.... but, when I nominated Syd and Big T when I was HOH, I was VERY close to pulling the trigger on Buffy and Aaron that round, and the talk me and Buffy had helped sway me from not targeting her yet.

She did work that night to try to stop me from nominating her, she might not have realized it but I was super close to doing it. It was Buffy's hard work with talking things out with me that prevented me from nominating her and making me decide to wait a little while longer before going after her.

It wasn't KWAY THE SOCIAL SAVANT that did it. It was Buffy.

Just to provide an example of an instance where she could've easily been on the block.

Thank you for being real about this, Villanelle!

Kway thought he was suave with trying to keep it a secret that he was actually working for Buffy/Aaron. But sadly, he is as transparent as tracing paper, and it was obvious. Especially when they kept trying to save him in evictions and when Kway was trying to mislead me right before he was evicted to take the target off of Buffy.... why do that if he wasn't working with Buffy? lmao

Villanelle wrote:

Kway thought he was suave with trying to keep it a secret that he was actually working for Buffy/Aaron. But sadly, he is as transparent as tracing paper, and it was obvious. Especially when they kept trying to save him in evictions and when Kway was trying to mislead me right before he was evicted to take the target off of Buffy.... why do that if he wasn't working with Buffy? lmao

Yeahhhh he was a whole mess after a while so I had to get him out once he was digging that hole too deep lmao